Template:Did you know nominations/PLDT HOME: The Last Home Stand

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Hawkeye7 (talk) 20:20, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

PLDT HOME: The Last Home Stand

Created by WayKurat (talk). Self nominated at 15:44, 25 July 2014 (UTC).

What's "push through"? EEng (talk) 03:10, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
I replaced the confusing idiom. Now I realize that "push through" has many meanings after a quick search. -WayKurat (talk) 03:49, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg New and long enough, but you should fix the Event section, it has instances of WP:PARAPHRASE, please check it if it's neutral, everything's good, no copyvio, plagriasm, interesting hook, i prefer ALT1, i should tick it if you have fixed it.-PAPAJECKLOY (hearthrob! kiss me! <3) (talk) 16:13, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
Can you please point out where exactly the paraphrase occur? -WayKurat (talk) 04:29, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
  • It's an interesting article, WayKurat. I did mark three words as a small quote, and revised a couple of words that didn't need to be reused from the original sources ("assured", for example), and also fixed the incorrect assertion that the PLDT statement was made the next day, which can't be true given what it actually says. If PapaJeckloy saw any paraphrasing in particular, he should say which words were involved so they can be fixed. I also think that the phrase "tune-up game" in the hooks and in the article needs to be explained or wikilinked somehow—is it like an exhibition game, or is it something else? This may require a different hook wording, if a wikilink can't do the trick. Also, "push through", while eliminated from the hooks, is used at least twice in the article and remains confusing: the final four words of the intro, "did not pushed through", are ungrammatical on top of being confusing. This is not the only place where the article needs a copyedit to fix prose issues: there are tense problems and other things that need improvement. However, the big thing is that the article is talking about the event as if it were a two-day event. That may have been the plan, but the event ultimately ran one day with the second day canceled. So it only took place on July 22, 2014—there needs to be a major revision to reflect this. (Can you figure out what happened to source 14, the "at Big Dome gives us first-person perspective as Gilas vs NBA 'nightmare' unfolded before his eyes"-titled one? It appears to be a dead link, but I think the URL might not be right.) The original hook strikes me as dicey, as it seems to blame the NBA, who had informed the organizers in April that there were problems. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:48, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
  • Yeah, the term "exhibition game" is better than "tune-up game" since this is what the event is advertised. I also added the cancellation of the second day in the lead section, and I have corrected the link at source 14. I have also removed the "pushed through" phrase in the article. Maybe this hook can be used instead of my original one:
  • ALT2: ... that refunds for the two-day charity event PLDT HOME: The Last Home Stand were offered after the scheduled exhibition game between NBA players and Gilas Pilipinas was cancelled?
-WayKurat (talk) 05:12, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg I've just done a copyedit of the article (and changed "got" to "was" in ALT2), so this is basically ready for a new reviewer. WayKurat, one thing that should be cleared up is whether there were exhibition games originally scheduled for both July 22 and July 23 (there clearly was one for July 22, and the wording in the intro and body would seem to indicate another exhibition game for July 23), or just July 22. If just the first night, the second-day events wording needs fixing. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:48, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the fixes. I've also corrected the terms used for the lead section, specifically about the "two day event". -WayKurat (talk) 10:26, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review still needed. (Original review was by serial sock PapaJeckloy, and should be ignored.) Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:51, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
  •  :REVIEW COMPLETED - The following has been checked in this review by Esemono
Green check.svg QPQ by WayKurat Template:Did you know nominations/Tripura local body elections, 2014
Green check.svg Article created by WayKurat on July 23, 2013 and has 6468 characters of readable prose
Green check.svg NPOV
Green check.svg Hook is interesting, short enough at characters and sourced with Ref 3
Green check.svg Every paragraph sourced
Symbol confirmed.svg GTG -- Esemono (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 00:35, 27 September 2014‎ (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Esemono, please remember to use four tildes to make your sig rather than just three, so it includes the date and time of your review. More important, though, is that your review needs to check whether the article Template:Tq, and you don't mention having checked (or at least spot-checked) this. It's a necessary part of all DYK reviews, so please let us know what you find below, and give a new icon along with it. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:40, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review still needed --Esemono (talk) 04:34, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Right, I've started this one over. The length and date of creation of this article both check out fine. The hook fact is interesting and suitably referenced online. I have carried out a number of checks for close para-phrasing, especially given the initial concerns raised, but found nothing to suggest there are any problems. Good to go, I say. Harrias talk 16:30, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svg I only checked the hook and its sources. It is an interesting story and I confirm that the information presented in the hook is in the article and accurately reflects the source presented. What is odd about this, and no problem, is that this sentence is part of a narrative pieced together from three different sources, all of which are local Filipino news and not familiar to me as someone outside that country. Everything about this hook and its narrative seems to be in order and I am happy to see an interesting story from Filipino sports appear here. Blue Rasberry (talk) 17:39, 10 October 2014 (UTC)