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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by Yoninah (talk) 22:00, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Fred Bang, Betsy Bang

  • ... that Fred and Betsy Bang (pictured) were introduced by a 700-pound gorilla called Marmaduke?
  • Reviewed: Three Warfares; Timothy S. Matthews
  • Comment: The articles were created some time ago but have lately been expanded. Fred has certainly been expanded x5 and Betsy is getting there. They make a natural pair and the story of their first meeting can be read at The Conversation.

5x expanded by Andrew Davidson (talk). Self-nominated at 16:28, 24 September 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Fred Bang: Article length is 2,232 chars, but assessed as stub. Needs re-assesing at lest as start. It was expanded at least five-fold, was nominated on due time, and is neutral. It cites sources inline. "Earwig's Copyvio Detector" reports moderate text similarities for four sources. They can be easily reworded. the fact "introduced by a 700-pound gorilla called Marmaduke" is not contained in the article. Betsy Bang: Article's expansion began at 952 chars on 17 Speptember, one week before the DYK nomination. It was 2,886 chars long at the nomination date, which does not meet the five-fold condition. It is assesed as stub, which is not any more. "Earwig's Copyvio Detector" reports moderate text similarities for four sources. They can be easily reworded. The hook fact is cited offline, for which I AGF. It is interesting. Its length is within limit. The image is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 License. It is contained in both articles. QPQ was done. CeeGee 11:22, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
Both are now rated C. Johnbod (talk) 03:49, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
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Template:Ping Please see the above new review. Thank you. Storye book (talk) 19:27, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

  • Template:Replyto Thanks for the reminder. I was discouraged by what's happened here but may yet regain my enthusiasm. More anon. Andrew🐉(talk) 19:36, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Template:Replyto I don't think you need to be discouraged. CeeGee's initial review was helpful and constructive, showing you exactly how to improve the article to DYK standards. There has been no editorial interference on the article page since the DYK nomination date, which is good - you have been left in full control of the article. If there is anything that you don't agree with or understand, or if you need help with anything, please let us (or other editors) know. We are all here to improve WP. You have two interesting articles here, about two important scientists, and any contribution we make to the improvement of that type of article is worthwhile. Keep up the good work. Storye book (talk) 20:25, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
  • I shall take another look. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:50, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Two weeks have passed since the last comment. This nomination appears to have gone stale and could be marked for closure soon if no progress is imminent. Flibirigit (talk) 17:54, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the warning. I shall give it more priority. More anon. Andrew🐉(talk) 18:06, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Nomination appears to be abandoned. Despite several comments no actual progress has been made. Flibirigit (talk) 17:26, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
  • I took some further looks but remained discouraged. Issues included:
1. Alteration of the original hook to
  • ALT1 ... that Fred and Betsy Bang were introduced by a 700-pound (320 kg) gorilla called Marmaduke?
2. Deletion of the picture on the grounds that its creative commons licence was non-commercial. As we are not a commercial business, this makes no sense. I have restored the picture as fair use but DYK would still reject this. That makes no sense either.
Now that the topics have been rejected by DYK, I find I am more inclined to work on them.
Andrew🐉(talk) 23:01, 28 November 2020 (UTC)