Template:Did you know nominations/Achille Boitel

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 23:32, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Achille Boitel

Created by Philafrenzy (talk), Zigzig20s (talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy (talk) at 21:30, 1 February 2015 (UTC).

  • Its a 5 x expansion on 1 Feb. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:35, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Lucas Cranach the Elder, Woman with a Carnation

  • Symbol voting keep.svg Before Philafrenzy's updates on 1 Feb, the "readable prose size" was 290 B (50 words) according to the PageSize tool; afterwards it was 2943 B (487 words). So clearly meets the criteria for newness (at the time of nomination), size and 5x expansion. It looks to be well sourced, although several are not available online so I cannot check for close paraphrasing etc. The only policy which I have some concern over is whether it would be considered POV - my view is that it just stays acceptable. The hook is properly formatted, supported by references, although I find the ALT1 hook to be more interesting.--Gronk Oz (talk) 23:35, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Still waiting for QPQ. Yoninah (talk) 00:59, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svg QPQ done. I don't understand Template:Ping's reference to POV; I assume he is talking about being unable to check offline sources and is using the wrong term. I read through the article and find it to be neutral and free of POV. Image is PD. Striking original hook in favor of ALT1. Offline hook ref AGF and cited inline. ALT1 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 19:30, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
  • I agree that it is good to go. Sorry I didn't explain my reservations more fully, Template:Ping; it arose from the great majority of the article covering activities which would normally be deprecated: Nazi collaboration and dodgy art dealing. I took another good look at it following your comments, and also re-read POV, and I accept that the article reflects "the significant views that have been published by reliable sources on a topic". So I learned something along the way - it's a good day!--Gronk Oz (talk) 02:40, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
  • I am of the opinion that there is something good to say about everybody, even Achille Boitel, but I couldn't find it in his case. I was actually aware of the issue of balance and that was why I went to some lengths to add the material about aviation to balance it out a bit. I am sure there is more and going on the front page may just reveal it. Philafrenzy (talk) 02:50, 15 February 2015 (UTC)