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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 16:27, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

1000 Forms of Fear

A photo of Sia performing in Seattle

  • ... that Australian recording artist Sia (pictured) agreed to release 1000 Forms of Fear on the condition that she was not obligated to do a tour or press appearances?

Improved to Good Article status by (talk). Nominated by Calvin999 (talk) at 11:04, 16 March 2015 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Promoted to GA on 16 March, long enough, QPQ verified, and image is fine. Hook is 172 characters. However, the article says she "signed a contract that would stipulate she doesn't have to tour or do press appearances to promote the album." The source says the same, so I think "promotional appearances" should not be mentioned in the hook (again, only tour and press appearances were mentioned in source & article) and possibly replaced with "tour". AHeneen (talk) 03:58, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
I've changed it but a tour is a form of promotional appearance.  — ₳aron 09:06, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Yes, but the opposite is not true: there are more types of promotional appearances than tours. Revised hook is fine. AHeneen (talk) 09:33, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Template:Ping please note if you checked the article for copyvio or close paraphrasing. The phrasing of the hook fact in the article is very close to the source. Yoninah (talk) 20:09, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Template:OdThe source says: "Within four minutes of sitting down, she explains her addiction to painkillers, alcoholism, medical misdiagnosis and the clauses in her contract with RCA for her next album that stipulate she doesn't have to tour or do press to promote it." The article says: "Eventually, the singer signed a contract that would stipulate she doesn't have to tour or do press appearances to promote the album." I don't think the article or hook paraphrases the source closely enough that it is a problem. AHeneen (talk) 21:03, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

  • Source: and the clauses in her contract with RCA for her next album that stipulate she doesn't have to tour or do press to promote it.
  • Article: the singer signed a contract that would stipulate she doesn't have to tour or do press appearances to promote the album.
  • Verbatim copying is exactly what close paraphrasing is. And if it's in one place, it's probably in others, so please check all the sources. GA is not DYK. Yoninah (talk) 21:30, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
Using the dup detector, there were no other cases. The article has been changed to "The singer agreed to a contract for a new album in which she was not obliged to tour or do press appearances in promotion the album." That said, I do not see this one case as a huge problem and while DYK is not GA, the GA criteria require a check for copyright issues and it is reasonable to presume that this issue has been handled in the GA review. AHeneen (talk) 07:22, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Thank you for completing the check for close paraphrasing. In my experience, as well as that of others (see the DYK talk page), it is not at all reasonable to make that presumption. I am restoring the tick based on your review. Yoninah (talk) 10:26, 27 March 2015 (UTC)